I Ngobeza. Manyela endhleleni a themba nkani. Mlambya kunyela. NGOBE. ZITHA!! Some fool expressed that there's no connection betwn this 1 n Ngobeza. N I told her she wrong talking abt stuff she don't know. There's shld be a Ngobeni who know this who shld come out about this I can't be the only 1. Inkomu!!

Let's get 1 thing clear: we'll get nowhere by arguing abt who right or wrong abt whether the surname is Tsonga or Shangani. The surname is basically Nguni since its root word is Ngobe. Ngobe is praised across different clans; Swazi, Zulul, Xhosa or even Ndebele. So should it also be an issue 4 these pple since it is clear it comes 4rm a Nguni origin? Should we also say these ppl are Tsonga? Claiming this is an error 4rm home affairs @ Divili is naïve n ignorant since there r different Ngobenis 4rm various communities all over SA n outside SA. Basically theis surname is Nguni as u can see in praise names wher we can see that most names r Nguni n some just converted in2 Xitsonga due 2 language change n acculturation. There's Ndwandwe who's actually Nxumalo, Zwide, Ngungunyani (Nguni origin). Most if not all "we- are-only-Tsonga" proponents wouldn't even explain the homogeneity/ similarity of our surnames w Nguni tribes. I guess they think its just coincidence. They tend 2 dwell on Junod 2 much n stop using they heads logically n common sensically. I'm not here 4 anymore debates abt the on-going tsonga/shangani debate. But if the need arise 4 me 2 debate. I WiLL take it on.

Let's get 1 thng clear: if we keep arguing abt imani anga right or wrong ka Tsonga or Shangani origin, or even where this surname falls in, then we re getting back 2 this fatigueing debate instead of uniting and being proud abt who we are. The Ngobeni surname is basically Nguni but in Tsonga some use a "v". Mine was like that n I chose 2 correct it as Ngobeni. I strongly believe one shld be in touch w the basic or primary origin. I understand Tsonga 2 be secondary in defining a culture as it don't seem 2 cover much of our Nguni origin. If u check closely ull notice most words are Nguni by basic origin and r only converted into Xitsonga. If u think n choose 2 b ngoveni thatd yo choice. The root word 4 this surname is Ngobe, so the question now is; should those who r Swazi, Ndebele, Zulu or Xhosa claim 2 be what? While somewhere in the praise names there are Ndwandwe origins. Ndwandwe is Nxumalo, which is Nguni. So stop this debating and use yo common sense

xivongo xa hina a hi ngobeni hiku ka xitsonga a swi kona i ngoveni xivengelo xa ku ncica v yi va b i mhaka ya lava a tikisa mapasi e divila

Va ka ngoveni ni mi tsalele xona xivongo xa n'wina hiku hetiseka xi hlayiseni tani hi laha ni nga tsala ha kona.mi nga ha ti karhati hi ku lava ngopfu xivongo xa n'wina

ngobeni mthabiya s'bong' esihle sasekhaya kwaNgobe, thts hw our grdmthr use 2 praise us.

ngobeni mthabiya s'bong' esihle sasekhaya kwaNgobe, thts hw our grdmthr use 2 praise us.

I came across some guy claiming he is a Ngobeni but his isithakazelo includes MAGUBANE! I never heard of this can someone clarify even with research??

I came across some guy claiming he is a Ngobeni but his isithakazelo includes MAGUBANE! I never heard of this can someone clarify even with research??

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